Founder Friday

From Doctor Who VR To Teen Calm

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We talk with Zilla Watson and Katie, the co-founders of Phase Space, about building a virtual reality tool that helps anxious teenagers feel calmer in minutes and why schools became the real place for impact. We share the messy, practical decisions behind evidence, funding, founder fit, and choosing a growth path that matches both ambition and real life. 
• meeting through a competitive BBC VR commission and building trust through delivery 
• founding Phase Space during Covid and shifting from “projects” to a real product 
• using an Innovate UK research grant to build an evidence base and test safely 
• learning that grant cash flow and paid-in-arrears timelines change fundraising needs 
• finding product-market fit in schools through systematic pilots and clear use cases 
• rolling out across Sutton secondary schools with NHS and university partners 
• dividing founder strengths while protecting sustainability and avoiding burnout 
• redefining success beyond headline VC rounds and “investability” narratives 
• using AI tools to speed up customer research and positioning work 
• choosing between revenue-led growth and investment-led hypergrowth 
• handling conflicting advice by asking better questions and filtering by timing 


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